TSC SW Podcast #3 Dr Jim Rogers And Sally Apps Cabot Learning Federation

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Sally is an Executive Principal for Cabot Learning Federation in Bristol, a Trust of 19 primary and secondary schools which also includes Alternative Provision. Sally, described as a ‘mover and shaker’ on her appointment in 2017 by Schools Week, oversees secondary strategy and alternative provision across the trust, working as part of a 3-19 executive team with responsibility for school improvement. A busy mother of two primary aged children, Sally also sits on the South West Headteacher Board and is a trustee of a multi-academy trust in Bath. A recent Think Piece ‘Towards Recovery’ prompted the invitation to this podcast. The Think Piece explores the transition from school closures to re-opening, framed in Carpenter’s five levers: relationships, community, transparent curriculum, metacognition and space. Sally has appeared on BBC Points West and BBC Radio 5 Live!.

Timeline (mins):

Introduction: Jim

01:25 Question 1: Sally, would you mind briefly introducing yourself and describing your role and responsibilities?

03:45 Question 2: Maybe: describe your experience as an executive principal: what have been the big challenges and successes?

07:44 Question 3: You have written a thought provoking and insightful Thinkpiece: Towards Recovery. What prompted you to write this?

13:16 Question 4: You talk about recovery being as much emotional as academic. What do you mean by this, and what do you think we need to be aware of in our approach and behaviours with students?

18:30 Question 5:  Maybe: You have framed this in Carpenter’s five levers: relationships, community, transparent curriculum, metacognition and space. Could you explain this framework and how it might help school leaders prepare for the recovery phrase?

Links referred to in the podcast:

Thinkpiece Towards Recovery Carpenter and Carpenter: https://clf.uk/towards-recovery-a-think-piece/

Carpenter and Carpenter: A Recovery Curriculum:  Loss and Life for our children and schools post pandemic. https://www.evidenceforlearning.net/recoverycurriculum/  

Sally can be found on Twitter  @_sallyjan
Jim can be found on Twitter as  @jimrogers72 and www.jimrogerstraining.co.uk